You’re modeling citizenship in a liberal democracy, which depends on tolerance for those who differ/disagree. Your kids’ socials are just signaling to their peers that they’re “safe,” hold the same beliefs as most of the rest of them claim to hold, etc. they’re doing their best to navigate a communications & technological revolution not seen since the Gutenberg press.
I’m glad to hear that Miss M. Is starting to embrace her basic/normie “authentic self!” Ally in the streets/TERF in the sheets! Being normal is good. The world depends on normal. MANA: Make America Normal Again!
Not my original - I think I picked it up from British TERFs like Glinner, RIPxNutmeg, etc. I think it was originally, "TRA in the streets, TERF in the sheets." Credit where credit is due--
Agreed!!! Thank you for calling this out: "Your kids’ socials are just signaling to their peers that they’re “safe,” hold the same beliefs as most of the rest of them claim to hold, etc. they’re doing their best to navigate a communications & technological revolution not seen since the Gutenberg press."
A kind lady once said to me, "You did your job Mom - now let God do his."
It's difficult though. Last time my daughter visited, I mentioned RFK Jr., thinking she'd know all about him since she's "political" and super-super-health conscious. She had never heard of him (!!). When I tried to explain MAHA, she proceeded to tell me that SHE was plugged in to politics and that I was mistaken -- MAHA is "not a thing in the general population." Her friend who visited with her agreed -- I was mistaken -- Republicans don't care about health -- I was just living in a bubble or something. *sigh* How much to push? Since the friend was there, I just dropped it (also because I could tell I would get upset). Maybe one day she'll hear about it, but she obviously doesn't want to hear it from me. I did my job -- now I'll let God do his.
I was just with a 73-year-old woman who lost her pre-frontal cortex.
Trump is bad for dissolving USAID because it’s our job to “help the poor.”
Criminal aliens should not be deported because “some innocent people might get mixed in.”
Trans is good because people should do whatever they want to their bodies and besides it’s only a few people; it’s not like it’s a big problem or anything!
(Never mind my phase of sharing carved arms, damaged urinary systems, menopause at 22, the cost to us all as these vanity surgeries increase premiums….)
“I don’t care!” She shouted when I relayed just a few side effects.
As for Trump, where does she get her news? CNN! Well, says I, do you ever go to Fox, then piece it together to see if you can figure out what the truth is?
FOX! She laughs.
Did you watch Trump on Rogan?
Who’s Rogan?
If you haven’t heard Trump speak for himself, in context, then your opinion is not well informed….
Once again, my eyes are tearing up and I’m sucking the breath between my teeth as I read your work. I’m troubled enough by similar “woke” rhetoric from people with whom I’ve had friendly relations, and am uneasy in my spirit because Jesus loved his enemies by laying down his life, and asks his followers to do the same (in which endeavor I earn a big FAIL!). Perhaps what moved me so much was that when those dearest to us are at least somewhat captured by the enemy, we have this perverse blessing of being enabled to love them, as they are, now, with this powerful hope that, by God’s grace, the good, true, and beautiful will take hold in their lives.
I follow a lot of cult content. One cult deprogrammed recommends asking to learn about the cult as a way to help them find their way out. You can’t be combative. That will just push them further to disconnect. He recommended asking genuinely about the cult. And continue to ask questions. This puts the onus on them explaining how to define man or woman. As they have to explain how a person can be man one day, woman the next, and then nonbinary after that. Why you’re not allowed to be offended by their requests or actions, but they can be offended at anything you request. Putting the onus on her to convince you with truth that she is right will expose the folly of what she believes. And most importantly just let her know you will be there when she figures it out. Fear of hearing “I told you so” was a big worry of many detrans stories. They continued even though they had hesitations because they didn’t want to hear “I told you so.”
Of course your kids hold those views. It's the air they breathe. There are millions of people three times their ages who believe the same things. This may change. Or, they may be the permanent products of a different timeline entirely.
A month before my dad died at the age of 85, he asked me a question: you really don't like men, huh? Dad, I said, I came out 40 years ago. Are you still carrying that around with you?
I'm not a parent, so I have to use my own parents as references. They tolerated something they never accepted. My mother never got the grandchildren she wanted even though she had two kids. My folks were never rude, but also never warmed up to my two long-term relationships.
I knew gay people who were disowned by their parents. I'm grateful that my parents didn't take that route.
I bypassed the challenges inherent in having kids, which makes me neither wiser nor dumber, and I know my life is, as the statisticians say, "an N of one." Meaning, what do I know? I wish you well, and here are some grains of salt.
Dear Mrs. Miller, now Elise... always supporting for you from the crowd! Thank you for documenting the personal reality of these times, though I know that is no comfort. I wish I had a magic wand to make it all go away.
I just wish the world was as simple as it was back in the 90's... gosh I miss "normal" dreams and goals and weekend gigs when we got drunk and drooled over the boys, got drunk and danced the night away. Things are over complicated on every single level nowadays. I hate it
This is one of the millions of reasons I intentionally decided to not have kids - it is also why I have immense respect for parents who without an owner's manual, try with every cell in their bodies, to do it right, even if they get some things wrong.
The one commenter was correct, you did your job and now she will have to navigate this f'ed up world the way you had to. That's not to say it makes it any less of an emotional and mental evisceration for you, but billions of humans before us, have watched those apron strings stretch to the limits, fray and snap.
This is where I believe that your care as a parent moves into the praying realm. All this of course is from the POV of the child, but honestly I have no doubt I would have been long dead or in a F'ed up place, had it not been for the prayers of my mother and grandmother, as well as a saintly sister-in-law.
Not to be to hyperbolic, but this is what Christ modeled on the cross, in praying for those who were opposed to Him and that he would no longer be able to physically touch, comfort, hug and save from their misguided and wayward choices.
You have nothing to lose with fervent and earnest prayer, that not only asks for blessings and help, but also thanks, for the blessing that were there buried in the muck, that we missed in our panicked first glance.
Take deep breathes and find your center and balance. Stay healthy and well Mrs. M.
I identify with every single part of this. Except that I am lucky that my husband and I are equally suffering from leftugee status. And I’m aware that I could be vilified for appropriation here. The most horrifying thing I ever saw in my trans identified daughter’s Instagram feed is that she follows Jeffrey Marsh. And my husband, too, reassures me that since she is 21 and, after almost 8 years in this utter madness, has still not medicalized, we can feel less afraid and thus not do anything about the likes of Jeffrey Marsh popping up in her continuing cult indoctrination. I’m just not so sure.
If my daughter followed marsh I might have to break my silence. There aren't enough adjectives to describe his brand of fecal matter. And good on ya for having a hubby like yours. Definitely envy that. And finally, it's damn hard to be sure nothing will happen to our girls when they're still indoctrinated. So amen right there. 🙏🏼
Socials? I've been blocked from her social media for years! Perhaps I need to learn better sleuthing? But maybe I'm better off not having a view into the fake frat house (she lives with 2 other trans-men and 1 trans-woman - all in their 20's)
...it's the 'attraction layer cake' - I found it on the roommates profile. They have all drank the koolaid. How will they ever get out if they keep pulling each other back in?
You’re modeling citizenship in a liberal democracy, which depends on tolerance for those who differ/disagree. Your kids’ socials are just signaling to their peers that they’re “safe,” hold the same beliefs as most of the rest of them claim to hold, etc. they’re doing their best to navigate a communications & technological revolution not seen since the Gutenberg press.
I’m glad to hear that Miss M. Is starting to embrace her basic/normie “authentic self!” Ally in the streets/TERF in the sheets! Being normal is good. The world depends on normal. MANA: Make America Normal Again!
"Ally in the streets/TERF in the sheets!" That made my freaking day. ❤️🔥
Not my original - I think I picked it up from British TERFs like Glinner, RIPxNutmeg, etc. I think it was originally, "TRA in the streets, TERF in the sheets." Credit where credit is due--
Integrity too! Swoon.
Agreed!!! Thank you for calling this out: "Your kids’ socials are just signaling to their peers that they’re “safe,” hold the same beliefs as most of the rest of them claim to hold, etc. they’re doing their best to navigate a communications & technological revolution not seen since the Gutenberg press."
A kind lady once said to me, "You did your job Mom - now let God do his."
It's difficult though. Last time my daughter visited, I mentioned RFK Jr., thinking she'd know all about him since she's "political" and super-super-health conscious. She had never heard of him (!!). When I tried to explain MAHA, she proceeded to tell me that SHE was plugged in to politics and that I was mistaken -- MAHA is "not a thing in the general population." Her friend who visited with her agreed -- I was mistaken -- Republicans don't care about health -- I was just living in a bubble or something. *sigh* How much to push? Since the friend was there, I just dropped it (also because I could tell I would get upset). Maybe one day she'll hear about it, but she obviously doesn't want to hear it from me. I did my job -- now I'll let God do his.
I was just with a 73-year-old woman who lost her pre-frontal cortex.
Trump is bad for dissolving USAID because it’s our job to “help the poor.”
Criminal aliens should not be deported because “some innocent people might get mixed in.”
Trans is good because people should do whatever they want to their bodies and besides it’s only a few people; it’s not like it’s a big problem or anything!
(Never mind my phase of sharing carved arms, damaged urinary systems, menopause at 22, the cost to us all as these vanity surgeries increase premiums….)
“I don’t care!” She shouted when I relayed just a few side effects.
As for Trump, where does she get her news? CNN! Well, says I, do you ever go to Fox, then piece it together to see if you can figure out what the truth is?
FOX! She laughs.
Did you watch Trump on Rogan?
Who’s Rogan?
If you haven’t heard Trump speak for himself, in context, then your opinion is not well informed….
“I can’t stand listening to him.”
I rest my case. Pre-frontal cortex. MIA.
We’ve been friends for decades. I just let it go.
Once again, my eyes are tearing up and I’m sucking the breath between my teeth as I read your work. I’m troubled enough by similar “woke” rhetoric from people with whom I’ve had friendly relations, and am uneasy in my spirit because Jesus loved his enemies by laying down his life, and asks his followers to do the same (in which endeavor I earn a big FAIL!). Perhaps what moved me so much was that when those dearest to us are at least somewhat captured by the enemy, we have this perverse blessing of being enabled to love them, as they are, now, with this powerful hope that, by God’s grace, the good, true, and beautiful will take hold in their lives.
Back to the prefrontal cortex. There’s time. Hugs.
I follow a lot of cult content. One cult deprogrammed recommends asking to learn about the cult as a way to help them find their way out. You can’t be combative. That will just push them further to disconnect. He recommended asking genuinely about the cult. And continue to ask questions. This puts the onus on them explaining how to define man or woman. As they have to explain how a person can be man one day, woman the next, and then nonbinary after that. Why you’re not allowed to be offended by their requests or actions, but they can be offended at anything you request. Putting the onus on her to convince you with truth that she is right will expose the folly of what she believes. And most importantly just let her know you will be there when she figures it out. Fear of hearing “I told you so” was a big worry of many detrans stories. They continued even though they had hesitations because they didn’t want to hear “I told you so.”
Of course your kids hold those views. It's the air they breathe. There are millions of people three times their ages who believe the same things. This may change. Or, they may be the permanent products of a different timeline entirely.
A month before my dad died at the age of 85, he asked me a question: you really don't like men, huh? Dad, I said, I came out 40 years ago. Are you still carrying that around with you?
I'm not a parent, so I have to use my own parents as references. They tolerated something they never accepted. My mother never got the grandchildren she wanted even though she had two kids. My folks were never rude, but also never warmed up to my two long-term relationships.
I knew gay people who were disowned by their parents. I'm grateful that my parents didn't take that route.
I bypassed the challenges inherent in having kids, which makes me neither wiser nor dumber, and I know my life is, as the statisticians say, "an N of one." Meaning, what do I know? I wish you well, and here are some grains of salt.
Thank you for sharing this. I needed this today.
That's what I'm here for. Glad it helped. 🩷
Dear Mrs. Miller, now Elise... always supporting for you from the crowd! Thank you for documenting the personal reality of these times, though I know that is no comfort. I wish I had a magic wand to make it all go away.
💖
I just wish the world was as simple as it was back in the 90's... gosh I miss "normal" dreams and goals and weekend gigs when we got drunk and drooled over the boys, got drunk and danced the night away. Things are over complicated on every single level nowadays. I hate it
And the 80s, for me. But yes. You're not wrong. ❤️
This is one of the millions of reasons I intentionally decided to not have kids - it is also why I have immense respect for parents who without an owner's manual, try with every cell in their bodies, to do it right, even if they get some things wrong.
The one commenter was correct, you did your job and now she will have to navigate this f'ed up world the way you had to. That's not to say it makes it any less of an emotional and mental evisceration for you, but billions of humans before us, have watched those apron strings stretch to the limits, fray and snap.
This is where I believe that your care as a parent moves into the praying realm. All this of course is from the POV of the child, but honestly I have no doubt I would have been long dead or in a F'ed up place, had it not been for the prayers of my mother and grandmother, as well as a saintly sister-in-law.
Not to be to hyperbolic, but this is what Christ modeled on the cross, in praying for those who were opposed to Him and that he would no longer be able to physically touch, comfort, hug and save from their misguided and wayward choices.
You have nothing to lose with fervent and earnest prayer, that not only asks for blessings and help, but also thanks, for the blessing that were there buried in the muck, that we missed in our panicked first glance.
Take deep breathes and find your center and balance. Stay healthy and well Mrs. M.
Evisceration is an excellent word. And, I thought as I read your comment that this blog is a prayer. 🙏🏼
It's always been a prayer for you and your crew, Mrs. M.
❤
I identify with every single part of this. Except that I am lucky that my husband and I are equally suffering from leftugee status. And I’m aware that I could be vilified for appropriation here. The most horrifying thing I ever saw in my trans identified daughter’s Instagram feed is that she follows Jeffrey Marsh. And my husband, too, reassures me that since she is 21 and, after almost 8 years in this utter madness, has still not medicalized, we can feel less afraid and thus not do anything about the likes of Jeffrey Marsh popping up in her continuing cult indoctrination. I’m just not so sure.
If my daughter followed marsh I might have to break my silence. There aren't enough adjectives to describe his brand of fecal matter. And good on ya for having a hubby like yours. Definitely envy that. And finally, it's damn hard to be sure nothing will happen to our girls when they're still indoctrinated. So amen right there. 🙏🏼
Socials? I've been blocked from her social media for years! Perhaps I need to learn better sleuthing? But maybe I'm better off not having a view into the fake frat house (she lives with 2 other trans-men and 1 trans-woman - all in their 20's)
I've been banned too. And maybe you are better off. Eek. Sorry to hear that. Mine has a trans identifying female roommate too.
Have you seen this? https://cake.avris.it/gA6
...it's the 'attraction layer cake' - I found it on the roommates profile. They have all drank the koolaid. How will they ever get out if they keep pulling each other back in?
Whoa. I haven't seen that one. Silly with a pseudo clinical sheen.
What does the Mr. say about the government taking his hard earned dollars and spending it overseas?
We don't discuss it. Wish we could!